tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post4595224465947000980..comments2023-12-17T05:54:56.396-05:00Comments on I'm Unschooled. Yes, I Can Write.: On Being "Childish"Idzie Desmaraishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12782266545123946006noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-62625740722632517452018-12-08T20:45:46.788-05:002018-12-08T20:45:46.788-05:00I've noticed people use this as a way to dismi...I've noticed people use this as a way to dismiss an opinion they find uncomfortable, or when they're told that they're wrong about something. There's nothing sillier than pouting and throwing the "You're rude and childish!" because you've been told you're wrong about a thing. O the "You seem very young!" thing, if, say, you dare to disagree about something. Right. Because I don't agree with you, I'm childish/immature/have no life experience... seems to me that the accuser is the one who needs life experience, if they can't handle being wrong, or not forcing their own -- often really erroneous -- opinion on someone else. But what do I know, I'm pretty childish. <br /><br />TL;dr: Maaan I so agree with this article I can't even. :DTabbyCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06786440113468097227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-9642480734916181412015-12-02T10:55:02.882-05:002015-12-02T10:55:02.882-05:00When I was a child and teenager I hated being youn...When I was a child and teenager I hated being young. Mostly because nobody would take your ideas seriously and respect you. So I acted older than I did. People always thought I was at least 10 years older than I was.<br /><br />I'm now 22. After playing the adult game, I've realised there's nothing worth winning in it. No quantity of money respect or power can make up for losing your childish imagination and fun. That's what every adult really wants... to be free and childish again. Your inner world and zest for life is the most precious thing in the world.<br /><br />If someone calls me childish, I'll now take it as a compliment.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03163335712866263158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-28549949164657418552010-12-03T23:22:42.127-05:002010-12-03T23:22:42.127-05:00SOULRISE AND IDZIE! MY 2 FAVORITE UNSCHOOLING PEOP...SOULRISE AND IDZIE! MY 2 FAVORITE UNSCHOOLING PEOPLE! :D<br /><br />I'm still quite a young person and I hate how I'm always discriminized for being young on stupid things like maturity. I'm pretty mature, but no i'm treated like a kid with no say in anything.Blobthe14https://www.blogger.com/profile/10228677940571358033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-4860065481457148032010-01-25T21:37:48.341-05:002010-01-25T21:37:48.341-05:00Found you via Mon... Great post!
I agree that chi...Found you via Mon... Great post!<br /><br />I agree that children are as a matter of course disrespected in our society. And I think the term is often used to mean, "Quit complicating things by being true to yourself and get in line." Which is, sadly, how we often treat children or were treated when we were children. You Don't Matter, But Following the Rules Does.<br /><br />I also think it's an interesting point you make about the elderly getting more respect than children because they were once useful. It reminds me of two great posts I read about feminism and childrens' rights... which both pointed out that children are the only oppressed people who, as a matter of course, have the ability to become a member of the oppressing class (grown-ups). And that by affording our children the rights they deserve, right now, as children, we have an opportunity to influence the way they will treat oppressed people when they are grown-up.<br /><br />Here are the posts:<br /><br />http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/10/dancing-between-the-tables-on-the-personhood-of-children/<br /><br />http://www.canow.org/canoworg/2009/11/feminist-parenting-the-larger-picture.html<br /><br />I am the mom of two young boys... We are an unschooling family... we are finding our way, one day at a time, out of the dominator mentality.Stacy (Mama-Om)http://mama-om.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-52358131706178726642010-01-25T21:01:28.545-05:002010-01-25T21:01:28.545-05:00awesome post Idzieawesome post Idziemichele james-parhamhttp://www.naturalattachment.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-19846716582746029602010-01-25T03:11:18.710-05:002010-01-25T03:11:18.710-05:00So true, good thinking! So glad I'm an unscho...So true, good thinking! So glad I'm an unschooler, no marginalised children (or old people) here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-75794323293917946722010-01-24T11:23:15.234-05:002010-01-24T11:23:15.234-05:00Cheyenne - your comment reminds me of the insult g...Cheyenne - your comment reminds me of the insult given to boys/men "You throw like a girl" and while I do throw badly - I'm sure many other girls are great at throwing things.<br /><br />And why, considering how recently a child was an unencumbered Spirit, are children seen as so lacking in any wisdom. When my youngest was 2 he said to me that "God is gold because gold is precious and so is God." How can that statement be seen as anything less than Spirit knowing truth?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-64068708111841171532010-01-20T21:39:38.113-05:002010-01-20T21:39:38.113-05:00Whoa, I never thought of it that way... What you a...Whoa, I never thought of it that way... What you are saying is so true! The "mature" person is suppose to be cool, rational, and sticks to the status quo. Exactly how men are suppose to act in this culture. I assume you could exchange "childish" with the insult of being a "girl" in many instances.Cheyennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14396988080631118646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-56988645068186764812010-01-20T04:25:38.737-05:002010-01-20T04:25:38.737-05:00Thank you, I had never thought that it was a gener...Thank you, I had never thought that it was a general insult to children.<br /><br />Although I understand the sentiment, that we ought to mature and not remain as children, I agree with you that when we are told that we are being childish we are being dismissed.<br /><br />It reflects that need to feel superior to another.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11863793441609598153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-69666836319823912862010-01-19T19:54:01.344-05:002010-01-19T19:54:01.344-05:00a very awesome post Idzie. I know people everywher...a very awesome post Idzie. I know people everywhere, young and old, can relate to this with much resentment of being called "childish" for sharing their opinions and thoughts... I certainly can.<br /><br />RochRochelle Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09145432425308264791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-66451107841801298222010-01-19T18:40:37.912-05:002010-01-19T18:40:37.912-05:00@Heart Rockin Mama: I wonder that as well...
@Che...@Heart Rockin Mama: I wonder that as well...<br /><br />@Cheryl: LOVE your comment, and totally agree!<br /><br />@Alison: Thank you! It really seems like that... That both the young and old are treated badly, yet the old get marginally more respect since they were once useful! So sad... And also, I hadn't thought of it that way, but I totally think you're right: that calling someone childish is an attempt to take away their power.<br /><br />@Colleen: It really is sad...<br /><br />@Sara: Thanks! :-) Yes, I agree, Alison made a really good point there! I was only focusing on the "childish" insult, but comments are showing me that there are a whole group of insults that, well, should never have been turned into insults! You can be childish, a baby, a girl... Ageism AND sexism. How wonderful!/sarcasm Anyway, thanks for the comment. :-)<br /><br />@Linda: Me too!<br /><br />@Margy: Thanks! :-) "Retard" is another horrible one, for sure...<br /><br />@SoulRiser: Thank you! :-) I wouldn't mind at all, actually I'm flattered that you want to, so go ahead! :-)Idzie Desmaraishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12782266545123946006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-44562283451904630932010-01-19T17:54:19.052-05:002010-01-19T17:54:19.052-05:00Brilliant post - I'll be honest, I hadn't ...Brilliant post - I'll be honest, I hadn't thought of making that connection either.<br /><br />Would you mind if I republish this on my blog? I'll link to this post and your blog as well :)SoulRiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18117906030797197819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-71101364196540826682010-01-19T17:45:15.964-05:002010-01-19T17:45:15.964-05:00You are UNBELIVABLE correct. I hate when people us...You are UNBELIVABLE correct. I hate when people use words like "childish" and "retard" as insults. Great post, keep it up.<br /><br />MargyMargyhttp://homeschoolhighschool.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-71302737248898828632010-01-19T17:13:49.948-05:002010-01-19T17:13:49.948-05:00Yep, exactly. I'd love to see that word strick...Yep, exactly. I'd love to see that word stricken from the English language.lijhehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09213848554493937668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-4323295317217130932010-01-19T13:21:54.983-05:002010-01-19T13:21:54.983-05:00great post! i have to say, alison made a great po...great post! i have to say, alison made a great point, about it being an attempt to take away a person's power...as a way to invalidate him or her. it's similar to the rude comment "you're acting like a girl" thrown at boys. like what's wrong with girls?! what is that supposed to mean?! "you're acting like a baby/child" means what exactly...?! <br /><br />i think children are seen as stupid, maybe due to their so-called inexperience, therefore nothing they say can really be valid. but children have such great insights sometimes! and they live with a certain unguarded honesty that is so refreshing! <br /><br />i also have to agree, fear is at the root of most negativity...sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323454562451307799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-14475473128778249792010-01-19T00:52:05.775-05:002010-01-19T00:52:05.775-05:00That's so true, Idzie. True and sad.That's so true, Idzie. True and sad.Colleen Paeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08218930688866372571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-63780139448806610752010-01-18T22:39:11.437-05:002010-01-18T22:39:11.437-05:00Awesome post!
I'm working in a long term care...Awesome post!<br /><br />I'm working in a long term care facility for people with dementia, and that's one thing that happens a LOT with the elderly, regardless of the stage of their dementia. The literature calls it "infantilization," and one text I was reading talked about a care giver saying to another, "let's get the potty line over with"<br /><br />So the connection I see between this and your post is that children are on the lowest rung of our hierarchical ladder of status/power. The elderly are barely one rung above, probably because they once led useful lives, whereas children's "usefulness" to society is still in the future.<br /><br />I wonder if calling someone "childish" as a way to disagree is an attempt to take away that person's power?Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06930063125203710694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-39372050124869752862010-01-18T21:00:28.414-05:002010-01-18T21:00:28.414-05:00Whoa. Never turned it around like that. I've a...Whoa. Never turned it around like that. I've always seen the term as an insult to the person it's being said to, but never realized just how insulting it is to children. I don't know why I never connected it like that! <br /><br />Also loved Cheryl's comments. I agree; fear is nearly always the root of negativity, is it not?Tara W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01341003521700042612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-75644485960262729242010-01-18T20:30:09.763-05:002010-01-18T20:30:09.763-05:00Idzie, I see this as part of our culture of "...Idzie, I see this as part of our culture of "control." It's about shaming people into obedience. Anarchy is the exact opposite of childishness because it means, literally, "no rulers." It's a way of life for people who *want* to think for themselves, who *want* to make their own choices, and who want to be responsible for themselves. Those who call you childish are reacting from a place of fear of living freely.Cherylhttp://artundertheappletree.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8805323468407241809.post-64082705835440393322010-01-18T20:06:46.464-05:002010-01-18T20:06:46.464-05:00I also wonder when someone is called a "baby&...I also wonder when someone is called a "baby", why it is meant as an insult?Unschoolers Rock the Campgroundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828664305766190191noreply@blogger.com